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CMV charters Azores to replace Discovery in 2015

CMV charters Azores to replace Discovery in 2015

Postby Dave » 27 Jun 2014 14:57

According to the blog: Time Spent at Sea, CMV have a ship to replace Discovery:

CMV charters classic cruise ship Azores to replace Discovery in 2015

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It might be that someone's already mentioned it, but it was news to me!
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CMV charters Azores to replace Discovery in 2015

Postby JollyJill » 27 Jun 2014 15:43

Dave wrote:According to the blog: Time Spent at Sea, CMV have a ship to replace Discovery:

CMV charters classic cruise ship Azores to replace Discovery in 2015

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It might be that someone's already mentioned it, but it was news to me!


Thanks for that Dave- it's news to me too.
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Re: CMV charters Azores to replace Discovery in 2015

Postby khkate » 27 Jun 2014 18:44

These Portuscale ships are lovely looking - should fit in well with the CMV fleet, just like they would fit in with the Saga fleet. Discovery to Saga maybe?!
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Re: CMV charters Azores to replace Discovery in 2015

Postby tomvet » 27 Jun 2014 18:57

Disaster! Its an adult only ship - that is now 2 adult only ships! CMV now off my radar!!!
Because its such a small ship, I think it will be a premium product i.e. niche ports etc!

From CMV website


Announcing a New Ship for 2015
Announcing a New Ship for 2015
British based Cruise Operator, Cruise & Maritime Voyages (CMV), is pleased to announce the introduction of the 550 passenger classic cruise ship Azores to their fleet in 2015.

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Azores will replace Discovery as CMV’s second ex-UK cruise vessel operating alongside Marco Polo and will also be dedicated to the British and English speaking markets and positioned as an adult only product (16 years plus). Azores will operate year round sailings commencing operations from Bristol Avonmouth on 26th January 2015 with a 30 night CMV maiden voyage to the West Indies.

Azores will also be sailing from Hull and London Tilbury with programme highlights including; the Solar Eclipse & Northern Lights, Seville Fiesta, Summertime Gardens & Medieval Cities and a Scottish themed Edinburgh Festival cruise, plus all the perennial favourites.

The Azores has been chartered from Lisbon based, Portuscale Cruises on a long term basis. All crewing and ship management services will be handled directly by CMV in line with the services provided by Marco Polo and Astor.

Azores was completely re-built in 1994 at a cost of US$150mio when she was launched as a premium rated product. Azores is a classic ship with a traditional wrap around wooden promenade deck and a wide range of well appointed and inviting lounges and homely retreats. These include an impressive main show lounge, an auditorium, nightclub, casino, a selection of bars and lounges, two dining venues and a stunning marbled reception. 85% of her 277 cabins have an ocean view and almost 20% are of a de-luxe standard including nine balcony suites. All cabins also have a bath tub and mini bar facility.

Chris Coates, Commercial Director of CMV commented, “Azores is an excellent, upgraded addition to our cruise fleet and has been affectionately and very well maintained by her Owners. We are confident that Azores will prove to be a ‘real winner’ with our dedicated growing number of loyal customers and will also attract new clients seeking smaller ship alternatives and regional ex-UK no fly cruise options”.

Rui Alegre, Chief Executive Officer of Lisbon based Portuscale Cruises added, “I’m a strong believer in developing close and long term business partnerships. I’m very pleased to have concluded a charter with CMV and look forward to working closely with their team in successfully establishing Azores on to the British market. Azores is a beautiful ship and has been operating very well in achieving high levels of customer satisfaction. I am proud that she will be carrying CMV passengers next year and for many years to come”.

Full details of CMV’s new ship Azores and her exciting programme alongside Marco Polo and Astor will be unveiled on Tuesday 1st July 2014 when a 2015 first edition preview brochure will be released featuring a cruise collection of over 50 sailings through until October 2015.

Also in 2015, Marco Polo will be celebrating her special golden anniversary and fifty memorable years of ocean voyages and cruising with the highlight being a 36 night commemorative voyage to Canada and Greenland sailing from London Tilbury in July. Special onboard events and surprises are also being planned to mark this notable landmark.

With close to 95% of the 2014 programme already sold CMV are committed to rewarding early bookers so the 2015 launch will be backed up by a very special introductory ‘Buy One Get One Free’ early booking offer on a vast majority of sailings for reservations made by 31st August 2014.

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Re: CMV charters Azores to replace Discovery in 2015

Postby tomvet » 27 Jun 2014 18:58

khkate wrote:These Portuscale ships are lovely looking - should fit in well with the CMV fleet, just like they would fit in with the Saga fleet. Discovery to Saga maybe?!


Possibly but that is the TVs out of the picture also!
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Re: CMV charters Azores to replace Discovery in 2015

Postby khkate » 28 Jun 2014 15:59

Can understand your frustration Tom with CMV fleet becoming adult-only, especially as Bristol may have suited you as an alternative departure port. Wonder why they are restricting it? Certainly the interior photos look like a nice ship. Remember seeing her when we were inLisbon once.
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Re: CMV charters Azores to replace Discovery in 2015

Postby tomvet » 28 Jun 2014 16:17

khkate wrote:Can understand your frustration Tom with CMV fleet becoming adult-only, especially as Bristol may have suited you as an alternative departure port. Wonder why they are restricting it? Certainly the interior photos look like a nice ship. Remember seeing her when we were inLisbon once.


I am not sure why the change in policy. I have tried to make bookings on the Ocean Countess and Discovery in the past and the agents were far from encouraging stating that there were no kids clubs for children and making a big deal about it!!! Too early to talk about Aisling and Una just yet but while Mai enjoys the kids zones she can also do nicely without them - thank you!

If families are being directed to the NCLs and RCIs by these lines - does CMV and Fred Olsen to a lesser extent expect that these kids when adults will return to them? I think its a very bad long term growth strategy. Perhaps CMV see themselves as another Saga but if so then we would need to see the door to ship to door pickups, insurance inclusive AND something else that Saga does not offer! Perhaps that something else is that 16 - 50 year olds can travel!!! :shock:

I don't have issues with adult own ships but when its the entire fleet - I have to disagree. Think of the consternation that would ensue if a line, hotel etc had a 'No over 55s allowed'. That would be ageist! Whats is it called when 'No under 16s are allowed?'. :?:
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Re: CMV charters Azores to replace Discovery in 2015

Postby khkate » 28 Jun 2014 16:25

tomvet wrote:Whats is it called when 'No under 16s are allowed?'. :?:



Infringement of rights of children maybe? It is also a form of age discrimination too. Yes, cruise lines are not doing themselves any favours in making all ships child-free - and I don't think that CMV can in any way be placed in the same category as Saga. I can't see them adding the door-to-door transport, included grats and travel/cancellation insurance etc.

Wonder if Azores might have been the ship that Saga might have been trying to charter though, and CMV have pipped them to the post!

we shall have to go hunting for suitable lines and ship for you and Mai to do Tom - I am sure that Mai would not really enjoy the mega-liners, and their size restricts them a bit on the variety of itinerary.
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CMV charters Azores to replace Discovery in 2015

Postby Dave » 28 Jun 2014 16:35

Perhaps the question of 'Adults Only' cruises and/or ships should have its own topic?

If someone starts one, I'll join in the discussion... ;)
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Re: CMV charters Azores to replace Discovery in 2015

Postby tomvet » 28 Jun 2014 16:35

khkate wrote:
tomvet wrote:Whats is it called when 'No under 16s are allowed?'. :?:



Infringement of rights of children maybe? It is also a form of age discrimination too. Yes, cruise lines are not doing themselves any favours in making all ships child-free - and I don't think that CMV can in any way be placed in the same category as Saga. I can't see them adding the door-to-door transport, included grats and travel/cancellation insurance etc.

Wonder if Azores might have been the ship that Saga might have been trying to charter though, and CMV have pipped them to the post!

we shall have to go hunting for suitable lines and ship for you and Mai to do Tom - I am sure that Mai would not really enjoy the mega-liners, and their size restricts them a bit on the variety of itinerary.


I think its a retrograde step for CMV also. I cannot see them adding the Saga sweeteners to their product either.

The thought that they had pipped Saga for the Azores did also cross my mind. Even the look of Azores looks more Sagaish that CMVish!

Mai has been on the MSC Fantasia and Lirica but was really too young. Her trip on the Boudicca was too short to gauge anything but she loved the Thomson Spirit. It will be interesting to see how she will like the glitzy Costa Pacifica.

Perhaps they may make Marco Polo their 'begrudgingly we will have kids on board' ship! :roll:
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