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"MARELLA DREAM" 'ANCIENT AFFAIR' CRUISE - November/December 2019

"MARELLA DREAM" 'ANCIENT AFFAIR' CRUISE - November/December 2019

Postby judgegeoff » 07 Dec 2019 15:39

REVIEW OF “MARELLA DREAM” - ‘ANCIENT AFFAIR’ CRUISE – 30th December 2019

ITINERARY (Scheduled)

27/11/19 – Fly from London Gatwick to Pathos and board “Marella Dream” at Limassol, Cyprus.
28/11/19 – Alanya, Turkey
29/11/19 – Marmaris, Turkey
30/11/19 – Heraklion, Crete
01/12/19 – Day at sea
02/12/19 – Ashdod, Israel (overnight in harbour)
03/12/19 – Ashdod
04/12/19 – Fly from Pathos to London Gatwick

However, on the second day of our cruise we were advised that we would no longer be spending two days in Ashdod but would be spending those days in Haifa (Israel). We were told that there had recently been missile attacks on Ashdod, fired from the Gaza Strip and so, on the grounds of safety we would visit Haifa which was beyond the range of Gaza missiles. There were no protests from the ship’s passengers!

FLIGHT TO PATHOS

Our flight from Gatwick was scheduled for 9:15 am and we had arranged for our local taxi company to pick us up from our home at 5:00 am but, due to a last minute problem with taxi company staff, it had to be brought forward to 4:00 am. So we arrived at Gatwick rather earlier than planned, but were very pleased to find that the TUI check-in desk was already in service, but with a long queue. One of the TUI reps saw that both Chris and myself use walking sticks and directed us to a separate desk where there was no queue. Thank you TUI, it was much appreciated.

We had pre-booked extra legroom seats for the Boeing 737 and would have preferred an aisle seat and a middle seat, but TUI had insisted that we had to have a middle and window seat, so we chose 4E and 4F. However, when the plane had filled up we realised that nobody had taken the aisle seat, so we had three seats to ourselves – bliss!

For some reason we were about 50 minutes late taking off from Gatwick, our plane was ready but we were held on the stand by Air traffic Control. But, once in the air, the flight itself was comfortable and we landed about 4 hours later in Pathos, Cyprus where we were reunited with our luggage and coaches were waiting to take us to the ship.

EMBARKATION

It was about an hour’s drive from Pathos to Limassol and, by the time that we got there, it had gone dark. A cruise ship staff member came on board the coach and advised us that we should go to a nearby desk just inside the Terminal building, collect an envelope containing luggage tags and Sea Pass cards, return to the coach, check our suitcases and apply the labels and then return to the Terminal. Unfortunately about half the coach passengers did not take heed and collected their suitcases before going into the Terminal to collect their envelopes, causing chaos at the desk. I do wish people would listen!

We had booked this holiday on a guaranteed cabin basis – we knew we would be allocated an outside cabin on either deck 5 or deck 6 – and opening our envelope revealed that we were to be in Cabin No. 6049 on the starboard side of deck 6 forward. I have already done a review of this cabin and have posted it in the ‘Cabin Reviews’ part of this forum.

THE SHIP

Launched in 1985, in service the following year
Cost - £150,000,000
Tonnage - 42,092 GT
Length – 243 metres
Beam – 29 metres
Power – 2 10 cylinder diesel engines, 2 propellers
Speed – 22.5 knots
Decks – 12 (9 passenger accessible)
Passengers – max 1,773
Crew/Staff – Approximately 600 (from 40 Countries)

FELLOW PASSENGERS

The vast majority of passengers were from the United Kingdom and, for the first time on any ship I have been on, I did not meet or hear a single American.

EMERGENCY DRILL

This was carried out just before sailing at 9:00 pm and we had to make our way, without life jackets, to our lifeboat which was No.3 on the starboard side of deck 9. We were given a short presentation and instructed on how to wear life jackets.

DINING

There are 6 eateries on the ship but, being only a 7 night cruise, we only sampled 4 of them.

The main dining room was the ‘Orion Restaurant’ on deck 4 forward, which was very handy for us. On entering the restaurant and sanitising our hands we were directed to a table by one of the waiters. We were always happy to share a table and left it to the waiters to decide – sometimes we were sat on our own and sometimes we shared a table. There was a good choice of food on the menu – we had to decide between 5 starters or soups/salads, 9 main courses and 5 desserts. The food here was pretty average cruise ship fair, sometimes looking better than it tasted, but overall very acceptable. I did try the extra cost (£9.99) fillet steak one night but was very disappointed with it. It was very small compared with all other ships we have tried and had obviously been kept under a heating lamp for a long time, it was very dry. A good steak needs to be rested, but not hibernated!!! Red, white and rose wine was served by the waiters and they were very quick to refill glasses when required. There was only one formal night on this 7 night cruise.

We had early start excursions on all of our ports, with the exception of Marmaris, so had to use one of the buffet restaurants for our breakfasts for most mornings. The large ‘Lido Buffet Restaurant’ on deck 9 opened earliest, followed by the ‘Sirens Buffet Restaurant’ on deck 11. I was pleasantly surprised by the food in these two restaurants, there was a good choice and the food was always piping hot.

On deck 11, alongside the main pool, was the ‘Terrace Grill’ which served pizza slices, hot dogs, burgers and omelettes, with a good selection of salad items and chips. There was also a serve yourself ice cream station adjacent to the grill for soft serve vanilla and chocolate cones.

Inside the ‘Explorers Lounge’ on deck 8 there was a very popular coffee bar selling speciality coffees and yummy looking cream cakes. Several times we went there for a cappuccino (Chris) and an americano (me). They were delicious and very well priced - £2.60 for both drinks. Each time you buy a drink there the staff stamp a loyalty card and you get a free drink for every 6 purchased.

Overall I would rate the eateries on the ship as 7/10, not fine dining but generally quite acceptable.

LOUNGES/BARS

There were a lot of lounges and bars spread throughout the ship and we never had problems finding somewhere comfortable to sit.

ENTERTAINMENT

Throughout the days there were various activities going on around the ship, including carpet bowls and sucker archery etc. However, with such a short and port intensive cruise, we didn’t really get the chance to get ourselves involved in them.

Most of the evenings there was a show by the ship’s singers and dancers in the Main Theatre (sometimes two shows) but, on the second night, when we went down to the Theatre we found that it had been changed to a “Mr & Mrs” type show without any explanation.

The shows were reasonable, not the best we have seen, although I thought that the dancers were much better than the singers.

Two evenings we attended a show given by Maurice Grumbleweed, a member of 'The Grumbleweeds', a group dating back to 1962. He sang, played a guitar, told some very unpolitically correct jokes and told some really funny anecdotes of his time in the Working Mens' Clubs around the Country. He was a joy to listen to and we all left the theatre with sore ribs having laughed so much.

As usual, there was entertainment in various lounges throughout the ship in the evenings. We particularly enjoyed the band ‘Luna’ who had an excellent girl singer and also ‘2 Intense’, a duo Tom and Maris who had excellent voices.

There was the usual trivia quiz sessions and I thought that the questions were a little harder than on most other ships we have experienced – on the two trivia quizzes we attended Chris and I only achieved 8 out of 15 questions right.



THE PORTS

28/11/19 – Alanya, Turkey

We had been to Alanya on a previous cruise and so decided to book a private tour. We arranged with a company named ‘Alanyatours’ to provide us with a private car with an english speaking driver/guide to visit the Dim River and caves. They told us that they would meet us at the port at 10:20 am. What we did not know (until that morning) was that the ship was maintaining a time that was one hour earlier than the local time. Thus when we went ashore at 10:15 am it was actually 11:15 am in the port. There was no sign of our driver/guide and we waited for over 20 minutes. What I don’t understand is that our ship did not berth until 10:00 am ship’s time (11:00 am local time) and the tour company knew that we were on the ship.

Eventually we negotiated with a local taxi driver and he took us to the Dim River resort which was probably very busy in the summer but was deserted when we visited it. We had hoped to have lunch in one of the floating restaurants but, as our driver spoke almost no english (and we speak no Turkish) it was just too difficult. The area was very spectacular, with the river flowing through steep ravines.

Our taxi then took us to the Dalmatis Caves (rather than the Dim Caves) which were quite spectacular with stalactites and stalagmites, but not as extensive or impressive as some of the other caves we have visited on out travels. Entrance to the caves was just 7.5 lira (99p) per person.

Our final stop was to the castle at Alanya which was situated on a high hill overlooking the town and the sea beyond. It is mostly ruined now and not the most impressive castle we have visited. We got into a massive traffic jam on the narrow and winding road back down from the castle. We later found out that one of the ship’s excursion coaches had got stuck on the narrow road, other traffic refused to give way and it was only sorted out when the coach driver called the police to attend. Some of our table companions that night had been on that coach! We then returned to the ship for a late lunch. It had not been our best tour by a long way, but at least we had seen some of the area.

I am strongly against the ship asking its passengers to maintain a different time in a port than the local time. We had been told that the ship would be arriving in Alanya at 10:00 am and we never guessed that this would be 11:00 am local time.

29/11/19 – Marmaris, Turkey

Marmaris was a new port to us and looked to be a good place to explore on our own, so we did not book a tour here. The ship was berthed near to a small boat marina and we walked past all the lovely boats and then along the promenade to the town centre. Half way there we stopped at a cafe for two coffees (a cappuccino and an americano) and were surprised when the owner tried to charge us 10 Euros for them (about £8.42). We told him that we would pay in Turkish lira and he then dropped the price to 25 lira, about £3.37.

At the end of the promenade we reached the old harbour and alongside it was the entrance to the Kapali Carsi Grand Bazaar. Chris and I quite enjoy visiting these bazaars with their colourful clothing stalls and pungent smelling spice stalls. The stallholders did not pester us as much as the stallholders in other Turkish bazaars which made a nice change.

We had planned to visit the restored castle and its museum but we were both rather tired so we made our way back to the ship for a late lunch. We hope to visit the castle on another visit.

30/11/19 – Heraklion, Crete

We had booked the ship’s ‘Traditional Cretan Village and Knossos’ tour for our time in Heraklion and were taken by coach to the nearby site of the Palace of Knossos. This is the largest Bronze Age archaeological site on Crete and has been called Europe's oldest city. Settled as early as the Neolithic period, the name Knossos survives from ancient Greek references to the major city of Crete. The palace was first built around 1900 BC, during the early Minoan period, but was destroyed by an earthquake and fire about 1700 BC and was rebuilt shortly afterwards.

The palace was rediscovered in 1878 AD and proper excavations began in 1900 led by Englishman Sir Arthur Evans and continued for 35 years. Fortunately it survived two World Wars intact and is a fascinating place to visit. Although largely ruined some of the buildings have been restored and partially rebuilt. Hopefully it will soon become a UNESCO World Heritage site, I think it deserves it. The palace covers about 14,000 square metres, about the size of two football pitches, and we followed our very knowledgable tour guide who told us about the Minoan people and their ancient way of life.

After leaving the palace we returned to our coach for a short drive to the Aritholos Traditional Cretan Village. This village was created in the 1980s by a Cretan family who were concerned that the traditional buildings and way of life were being lost. They built a whole village using traditional materials and methods. You could say that it is a bit ‘Disneyfied’, especially as some of the buildings are now 4 star hotel rooms, but we found it very interesting. They gave us an excellent buffet lunch with Cretan food and wine and we ate it on a terrace with fantastic views over the hills to the sea. From here we were taken back to the ship – it had been a very enjoyable day out.

02/12/19 – Haifa, Israel (day 1)

This morning we had to get up fairly early for breakfast as we were book on the ship’s ‘Panoramic Jerusalem’ excursion which left at 7:30 am. Leaving from Haifa rather than the planned Ashdod meant that we had a longer drive to reach Jerusalem and, with fairly heavy traffic in place, it took us about 3 hours to reach there. On the coach our guide, an Israeli man named Eli, gave us all audio devices which enabled us to clearly hear his narrations.

On arriving in Jerusalem we were taken up to the Mount of Olives which gave us a panoramic view over the whole of Jerusalem. Whilst there is was a little windy and rather cool and we did get a few spots of rain. However, this soon cleared and we had blue skies and sunshine for the rest of the day.

We returned to our coach and were then driven to the Garden of Gethsemane. We found that the garden was a lot smaller than we had imagined, was very neatly kept and was all fenced off so that we were unable to actually walk through it. It was supposed to be here where Jesus prayed after the Last Supper and was betrayed by Judas. We also visited the Church of the Agony which is alongside the gardens.

From the gardens we were then taken to the Western Wall (aka the ‘Wailing Wall’) where we had about 45 minutes of free time. The wall is divided into two halves, one half for men and one half for women, each with its own entrance. People were praying at the wall and some were writing little notes and requests and posting them in cracks in the wall. I was surprised that there was so much jollity at the wall, one group of men were dancing and singing accompanied by an accordian and another group were dancing to a drum. We believe that they were associated with bar mitzvah celebrations. It was clear that the men seemed to be having more fun than the women!

We then visited the Tomb of David, the shepherd who became a King, the Dormition Church (on Mount Zion) where Jesus’ mother Mary supposedly went to sleep and went to heaven. We also visited the second storey room where the Last Supper was supposedly held. The buildings we visited were clearly ancient and the architecture of them fascinated me.

By this time it was fairly late, around 2:30 pm, and at last we headed to the ‘Grand Court Hotel’ in Jerusalem where we were treated to a fantastic buffet meal with plenty of wine. We were supposed to have had the meal half way through our visit to Jerusalem but for some reason the guide decided to see all the sights first and then have lunch. After the meal we were driven straight back to the ship – it had been a long day and we were fairly tired. But a great visit!

03/12/19 – Haifa, Israel (day 2)

Originally we had booked the ship’s ‘Tel Aviv beach and Shopping’ tour for our second day in Ashdod (now Haifa) but we realised that, being another long 12 hour trip with a very early start (6:30 am!), we might find it rather too tiring. So we cancelled it and replaced it with the ship’s ‘The Crusader’s Kingdom’ tour which was just 5 hours and visited the ancient city of Acre (aka Akko) which was a walled city with an ancient Crusader fortress.

About a 30 minute coach ride from Haifa, this Crusader fortress was built and inhabited by the Knights Templars at the turn of the 12th century. Within the fortress there are rooms for all different uses, from hospitals, to dining rooms, public bathrooms, and most impressively, huge halls used for varying purposes. The crypt that lies underground contains crusader tombstones.

In 1291 AD the fortress was conquered by Islamic forces and came under Malmuk control and rule. In 1799 AD Napoleon Bonaparte and his army lay seige to Acre but was unable to breach the city walls. After World War 1 the country became under British rule and the fortress was used as a jail where members of the Jewish Underground were held. In 1948 the country became Israel.

In 1994 AD an elderly lady was experiencing problems with damp in her home and, when she called in workmen to investigate, they found tunnels underneath that led from the fortress to the sea. These tunnels were used to bring goods to and from the fortress to the ships and have now been stabilised and have been opened to the public.

Being an ardent reader of both reference books and novels about the Crusaders I was in my element investigating the fortress and its amazing tunnels. I was surprised by the huge size of the various rooms within the fortress and the height of the arched ceilings. Most of our party had to bend to walk down the tunnels but Chris, being well under 5 feet tall, could walk normally through them – “One of the few advantages of being small” she said!

After leaving the fortress we followed our guide through the narrow cobbled medieval streets of Acre and we had some free time in the town’s Turkish Bazaar. We then returned to our coach for the short ride back to the ship. It had been a brilliant excursion and I would love to return to Acre for a land holiday, so that we could spend more time exploring this amazing historical place.

Whilst the ship set off for a return to Limassol, we started packing our suitcases – it had been a very enjoyable cruise.

DISEMBARKATION

Our flight from pathos (Cyprus) to London Gatwick was scheduled for 11:45 pm on the 4th December and so we tried to book a ship’s excursion that would leave us at Pathos Airport. However the staff would not let us book it as it would leave us at the Airport at about 2:30 pm, over 9 hours before our flight. They advised us to speak to reception to find out what time we were scheduled to be driven from the ship to the Airport. Reception told us that we would be transferred from the ship to the Airport at 7:30 pm but that we would be free to use the ship’s facilities until that time. We were able to retain our cabin until 3:30 pm that afternoon for a fee of £35.

At 3:30 pm we vacated our cabin and went to sit in one of the lounges where we could see passengers leaving the ship and new passengers arriving at the ship. We then went to the ‘Sirens Buffet’ for a meal and left the ship at 7:15 pm, collected our suitcases from the Terminal building and then boarded a coach for the one hour drive to Pathos Airport.

CONCLUSIONS

The “Marella Dream” is a fairly old ship but, as soon as one boards her, you could be in a brand new ship. Refits have been carried out very well so that she looks quite modern and the condition of the furniture and fittings is very high, with little indication of wear and tear. The staff were, as usual, excellent and there was always plenty of things to keep passengers entertained on board. Our cabin was quite large and the bed was comfortable and it would seem that a very high percentage of cabins on this ship have baths as well as showers.

So, would we consider another cruise on this ship? - probably not as the ship’s lifts nearly drove me insane. The 7 lifts are quite small (maximum 10 persons) and most of them work in pairs with one lift on the port side and one on the starboard side. Unfortunately the electrical controls for these pairs of lifts are connected and, if you call the lift on the port side either of the lifts can come, causing you to quickly run across the beam of the ship if it is the starboard lift that comes. To add to the misery, the lift nearest to us, the starboard forward lift, would not operate with more than 5 passengers! Most able bodied passengers soon gave up on the lifts and used the adjacent stairwells, but for those of us that have impaired mobility have to put up with these lifts. It should be a fairly easy task to separate the electrical controls and I am surprised that this hasn’t been done in one of the refits.

One thing that did impress us was the way that Marella organised the start of their excursions. On most ships you have to assemble in the theatre or one of the lounges and then there is a rush to get down to the gangway when your tour is called - not brilliant when your mobility is not very good and you need to wait for the lifts. On Marella ships you either assemble on the dock at the tour time or make your own way to the coach - a much more adult procedure.

We found that the signage on this ship could be improved considerably. When exiting a lift there was always a sign advising of what lounges, bars, restaurants and facilities were available, but not always advising in which direction (fore or aft) they were.

We sometimes found that information could be a little missing on the ship, such as when a show in the Main Theatre was substituted. It is possible that it was announced on the ship’s intercom, but it should also have been announced in the Theatre at the time. Additionally, we did not find out at what time we would be transported from the ship to the Airport until the afternoon before – and then only after we had asked reception!

We would however be very happy to try a cruise on another Marella ship. The “Marella Discovery 2” is a ship that was previously the “Splendour of the Seas” a Royal Caribbean Vision Class ship that was one of our favourite ships.
Geoff

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Postby Fossil » 07 Dec 2019 16:13

Really excellent review Geoff. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Almost identical to a cruise I did some years ago on Thomson Spirit, great itinerary.
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Postby Dave » 07 Dec 2019 16:14

Thanks very much for the comprehensive review Geoff. :thumbup:

It's always interesting to read someone else's thoughts about a ship I'm familiar with, just to see how their opinions compare. It was a few years ago now that we did our cruises on Dream and she'd been recently renovated. As you say, Dream might be a bit elderly, but she's very pleasant indeed and I really liked her. Having said that, I think that Discovery 2 is in an entirely different league altogether.

(BTW, I saw your cabin review but the photos aren't displaying, so I thought I'd reply once you'd fixed the problem. Of course, it could just be me...)
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Postby judgegeoff » 07 Dec 2019 17:06

Dave wrote:Thanks very much for the comprehensive review Geoff. :thumbup:

It's always interesting to read someone else's thoughts about a ship I'm familiar with, just to see how their opinions compare. It was a few years ago now that we did our cruises on Dream and she'd been recently renovated. As you say, Dream might be a bit elderly, but she's very pleasant indeed and I really liked her. Having said that, I think that Discovery 2 is in an entirely different league altogether.

(BTW, I saw your cabin review but the photos aren't displaying, so I thought I'd reply once you'd fixed the problem. Of course, it could just be me...)


Thanks Dave, I imported the photos from Google photos but a couple of people have pointed out to me that they aren't showing, so I will try and address that tomorrow if possible. I used to rely on photos from my Facebook albums which could be viewed by anybody, but Facebook have changed the rules and they cannot be seen by non members - annoying!
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Postby bobbyoscar » 07 Dec 2019 18:52

Thanks for this Geoff, I really enjoyed reading your review :thumbup:
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Postby Gillzajoker » 08 Dec 2019 11:15

Fabulous interesting and informative Reveiw Geoff - I thoroughly enjoyed it all! :D
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Postby Mungo » 08 Dec 2019 15:20

Thanks for sharing Geoff. :thumbup:

A great itinerary and the first ship my 2 year old grandson sailed on aged 6 months. :D He’s now done 4 cruises with one booked for next year! Marella Dream is a ship my daughter enjoyed (they did the Canaries) and she is a seasoned cruise.
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Postby Camela » 08 Dec 2019 23:26

An enjoyable read as always Geoff, you put a lot into your reviews, warts and all!!
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Postby judgegeoff » 09 Dec 2019 09:46

Camela wrote:An enjoyable read as always Geoff, you put a lot into your reviews, warts and all!!


Thank you Camela. Chris and I have been lucky enough to have travelled widely throughout the last 51 years - 3 weeks after our marriage we travelled to Zambia, central Africa, where we spent the next 6 years (two of our three children are Africans!). I have always written about each of our holidays - where we went, where we stayed, what we did etc., and am now on my third lever arch file of storage. So I would be writing my cruise reviews (or something very similar) even if I wasn't a member of this forum.

Our families (both Chris' and mine) have always been keen photographers and we had vast amounts of cine film and video, dating back to 1953. About 6 years ago I had all the old cine film transferred to DVD discs and then myself transferred all our video footage onto DVD discs. In all it amounted to over 80 hours of footage. That Christmas I gave each of our children an album containing 40 DVDs recording our family history in movies since 1953. So my granddaughter is able to see movie footage of her great great grandparents, something I would love to have been able to do.

Since we have had digital cameras I have kept the memory cards and store them in a W. H. Smith coin collecting album which is perfect for storing SD cards. However, I must get them transferred to a more secure medium as I am not sure if the cards are suitable for really long term storage (although they are still retaining all their information at present).

Before digital cameras I used to take a lot of photographs using colour slide film and we have cupboards full of these slides. Currently I am digitising them, although I am treating it as a long term project and return to it as and when I feel like it.

When my parents died my sister lived in their house for several years. About 10 years ago she was having a clear-out and gave me a box that contained all the air mail letters that I had written to my parents whilst we lived in Zambia (I had no idea that my parents had kept them!). International phone calls were very expensive in those days, so I used to write regularly to my family back home. I found it fascinating to read all my 40 year old letters, they revived many, many memories, so I have put them into an album.

So, as you will see, writing a review of my holidays is very easy for me, it is in my blood! :lol:
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Postby hazel20 » 09 Dec 2019 10:18

Brilliant review Geoff - thank you!
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